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		<title>By: Channel Steve &#187; First day at VAS</title>
		<link>http://www.sentimentsoncommonsense.com/?p=377&#038;cpage=1#comment-2926</link>
		<dc:creator>Channel Steve &#187; First day at VAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What Tech People Really Do Well: Teaching Teachers and Students at the Same Time! (sentimentsoncommonsense.com) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

I will endeavor to write about this later but... the key as I see it is strong, consistent curriculum documentation that can be relied upon.  Let me give it a think and will write about this later.

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>I will endeavor to write about this later but&#8230; the key as I see it is strong, consistent curriculum documentation that can be relied upon.  Let me give it a think and will write about this later.</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, perhaps a bit of a tech cliche. 

I would like to hear your thoughts on the most effective school model or system to creating those pathways and channels. For example, do you plan with teachers on a regular basis and team teach? How much integration is done in the classroom? Are teachers present for all technology classes you offer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, perhaps a bit of a tech cliche. </p>
<p>I would like to hear your thoughts on the most effective school model or system to creating those pathways and channels. For example, do you plan with teachers on a regular basis and team teach? How much integration is done in the classroom? Are teachers present for all technology classes you offer?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 03:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
Thanks for the comment!

I have heard the old &quot;work themselves out of a job&quot; comment before and have used it myself. As I more further down the road on this implementation process, I am beginning to realize that it is probably not accurate though.  Ultimately, a strong integrator actually ends up making themselves indispensable by creating pathways and channels for collaboration and resource building.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
Thanks for the comment!</p>
<p>I have heard the old &#8220;work themselves out of a job&#8221; comment before and have used it myself. As I more further down the road on this implementation process, I am beginning to realize that it is probably not accurate though.  Ultimately, a strong integrator actually ends up making themselves indispensable by creating pathways and channels for collaboration and resource building.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Marshall</title>
		<link>http://www.sentimentsoncommonsense.com/?p=377&#038;cpage=1#comment-460</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 03:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post! I agree and believe the goal of IT teachers should be to work themselves out of a job (so to speak). In other words, if you are doing your job well, teachers begin integrating technology on their own freeing you up to go from an instructional role to a supporting role. This ultimately benefits the ones that matter most-the students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post! I agree and believe the goal of IT teachers should be to work themselves out of a job (so to speak). In other words, if you are doing your job well, teachers begin integrating technology on their own freeing you up to go from an instructional role to a supporting role. This ultimately benefits the ones that matter most-the students.</p>
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		<title>By: Langwitches &#187; links for 2009-04-11</title>
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		<dc:creator>Langwitches &#187; links for 2009-04-11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dave Neudorf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Neudorf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good read fellas! I&#039;ve passed this onto my principal and two &#039;brand new&#039; Tech Facilitators hired internally. The role requires many hats, all important, without which things won&#039;t work and people won&#039;t trust you or the technology; the &#039;people trust&#039; being more important than the technology&#039;s. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good read fellas! I&#8217;ve passed this onto my principal and two &#8216;brand new&#8217; Tech Facilitators hired internally. The role requires many hats, all important, without which things won&#8217;t work and people won&#8217;t trust you or the technology; the &#8216;people trust&#8217; being more important than the technology&#8217;s. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Utecht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Utecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how you pick the one paragraph where I don&#039;t talk about working side by side with teachers to teach them as well as the students. That paragraph was a shout out to all the Ed Tech people who not only do exactly what you describe above but do all the stuff that isn&#039;t written in the job description. In fact I know that I&#039;m not suppose to be the one that unmutes a computer, that fixes a projector, or take 10 minutes to figure out why the e-mail isn&#039;t working. That&#039;s not my job...but I do it anyway. All those little interactions lead up to an invite into the classroom...your one shot...to make an impact on that teacher to be invited back again.

Your point is spot on. Our job is not to do any of those things I describe...but they do take up about 40% of my time...they are the little things that keep the technology running day to day. They are the little things that the Tech Office and local staff don&#039;t see as big things, but to teachers...in the middle of a lesson...they aren&#039;t just big they&#039;re HUGE!

Take the podcasts I talk about in that post that the 5th graders are now creating. I did a 1 hour session with the kids...and teacher...back in November. Kim has gone in helped the teachers create step by step procedures for creating a podcast and now...they do it on their own. In fact neither Kim nor I have been helping those teachers for almost two weeks now. We&#039;ve done our job, we taught both kids and teachers and they are on their way.

That...that right there is our job. That&#039;s what is in our job description moving teachers to be independent users of technology. That&#039;s when we know we&#039;ve done our job well and we move on to the next project, the next teacher, the next student.

I love your point about being there to &quot;teach ourselves&quot; I think that&#039;s often overlooked in our jobs. As an example Dennis Harter just today had to teach himself how to create and upload a text file to youtube to make subtitles on a move. He had to teach himself before he could teach the French teacher to teach the kids how to do it as they are putting French subtitles on YouTube videos that they get permission for. A perfect example of what people in the jobs you mention above do everyday. 

So I&#039;ll second your shout out. To those Teachers of Teachers who are lucky enough to work in schools who have admin who understand what their job really is. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how you pick the one paragraph where I don&#8217;t talk about working side by side with teachers to teach them as well as the students. That paragraph was a shout out to all the Ed Tech people who not only do exactly what you describe above but do all the stuff that isn&#8217;t written in the job description. In fact I know that I&#8217;m not suppose to be the one that unmutes a computer, that fixes a projector, or take 10 minutes to figure out why the e-mail isn&#8217;t working. That&#8217;s not my job&#8230;but I do it anyway. All those little interactions lead up to an invite into the classroom&#8230;your one shot&#8230;to make an impact on that teacher to be invited back again.</p>
<p>Your point is spot on. Our job is not to do any of those things I describe&#8230;but they do take up about 40% of my time&#8230;they are the little things that keep the technology running day to day. They are the little things that the Tech Office and local staff don&#8217;t see as big things, but to teachers&#8230;in the middle of a lesson&#8230;they aren&#8217;t just big they&#8217;re HUGE!</p>
<p>Take the podcasts I talk about in that post that the 5th graders are now creating. I did a 1 hour session with the kids&#8230;and teacher&#8230;back in November. Kim has gone in helped the teachers create step by step procedures for creating a podcast and now&#8230;they do it on their own. In fact neither Kim nor I have been helping those teachers for almost two weeks now. We&#8217;ve done our job, we taught both kids and teachers and they are on their way.</p>
<p>That&#8230;that right there is our job. That&#8217;s what is in our job description moving teachers to be independent users of technology. That&#8217;s when we know we&#8217;ve done our job well and we move on to the next project, the next teacher, the next student.</p>
<p>I love your point about being there to &#8220;teach ourselves&#8221; I think that&#8217;s often overlooked in our jobs. As an example Dennis Harter just today had to teach himself how to create and upload a text file to youtube to make subtitles on a move. He had to teach himself before he could teach the French teacher to teach the kids how to do it as they are putting French subtitles on YouTube videos that they get permission for. A perfect example of what people in the jobs you mention above do everyday. </p>
<p>So I&#8217;ll second your shout out. To those Teachers of Teachers who are lucky enough to work in schools who have admin who understand what their job really is. <img src='http://www.sentimentsoncommonsense.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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